Martin Hannett was as much the 5th Joy Divisioner as George Martin was the 5th Beatle - their music became the input for a 2nd creative process
Joy Division (Ian Curtis in particular) was picking up on the Bowie slipstream - Kraftwerk, Iggy, Velvets, etc.
Kraftwerk were an immensely important hub band - from Joy Division to Afrika Bambaataa (I saw both JD and AB)
Ian sang with a grown-up's voice
Ian had a certain detachedness, isolated from the others
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